Thursday, July 13, 2006

U T O P I A?

Act: Persuading ones point to others.

Agent: Socrates, Thrasymachus, and others

Scene: In Cephalus house

Agency: Conversation between men

Purpose: To engage in debate over the “truth” about justice.

As we first begin to apply Burke’s pentad one realize that this can be written in different ways depending on whose point of view we write from. The given example is a general pentad, however we can dissect each person and apply their won conclusion. For example, in Socrates case, the act would be trying to refute the comments by Thrasymachus. The agency would be a series of questions. And the purpose would be to prove his point while refuting the points made by Thrasymachus. One would then expect an entirely different pentad for Thrasymachus, since according to Bruke one can draw different conclusion from the pentad. The majority of conversation between Socrates and Thrasymachus seems to be very humorous. Socrates, without being over emotional, responds to Thrasymachus and refutes each of his points with questions. Thrasymachus, on the contrary, is very heated and passionate about his views. It is as if Socrates knew from the beginning the outcome of this conversation.

As we engage further into the conversation we begin to see the difference between Thrasmachus’ and Socrates’ personality and outlook on the world. Thrasymachus seems to be more cynical and dark while Socrates focuses more on the virtue of human beings. We can compare this with the notion of utopia, and how that kind of society is unattainable. The debate can be symbolic of the struggle in humans to do good or evil. In a utopian society the “darkness” would be eliminated. Thrasymachus talks about “the advantage of unjust is most apparent.” (TR pg. 18) From this comment Thrasymachus shows that they are not in a utopian society, due to the fact that the unjust is more noticeable than the just. Book 1 therefore does not reflect a utopia.


Blogger Sherry said...

I can understand and relate to your reason why this is not a utopia.

3:05 AM  

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